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Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:19 pm
by NoPanic42
So I have to wait for this email with the subject
Your EU proposal XXXXX - acronym; rejection? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:21 pm
by NoPanic42
Bloom wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:16 pm
IF ST LIF wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:14 pm
AdinaBabesh wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:07 pm
But you cannot drop so much from reserve list first year to below 70% in the third/fourth year ...

Oh yeah, you can. 92.6%, 76% and then 68.2% (from dreamer). Application -supposedly- improved over the years. So total lottery for me!

I do agree: the biggest lottery I ve never seen
I really cannot believe we work so hard and it is really a lottery. I am not surprised but it is so annoying.

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:25 pm
by Chem 2019
I think you are right. I have also 10 years of postdoc experience with tens of papers and wrote a strong proposal, the best I have ever written. I have gotten excellent fellowships with less solid proposal but now it seems that I am too aged for the reviewers. It is shit to work in science. I see some people get an assistant professor position in top universities even without any postdoc experience and even without one paper published (until now) from their PhD. You may not believe me but this is true. It is shit

Bloom wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:12 pm
Chem 2019 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:33 pm
I don’t understand how it works. My proposal was much better than that of last year, yet I got a lower score!! Thanks Dreamer for replying me.


The same for me, I am really shoked, a lower score than last years with an improved and revised project... my question is about the choice ok key words for the evaluation phase. I am in SOC, but my project is very interdisciplinary and I suspect I should indicate other panel to ne evaluated (I am dealing with digital humanities methods and I suspect sociologists don't appreaciated it so much, you know, I am not into the mainstream.... It is a big problem for me!). Not to talk about the gender in the proposal: last time I insert a paragraph and the evaliator said: the gender is well explained etc etc but you but you've never been involved in gender studies, so you're not credible. This year I avoided to insert the gender, and I am curios to read them... probably they will sey, your propsal is good, but there is a lack of gender domension, I am pretty sure of this...
Finally, and sorry for the very long post, I think the age is imoortant: I am 40 yo and I held my phd ten year ago... I think they don't want to finance project written by senior researchers, otherwise i cant explain the strange evaluation I had and I am going to have again...
Good luck to all and thanks

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:26 pm
by AdinaBabesh
You will see it in the email subject: rejection, invited or evaluation results (this means reserve list)
NoPanic42 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:19 pm
So I have to wait for this email with the subject
Your EU proposal XXXXX - acronym; rejection? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:30 pm
by NoPanic42
AdinaBabesh wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:26 pm
You will see it in the email subject: rejection, invited or evaluation results (this means reserve list)
NoPanic42 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:19 pm
So I have to wait for this email with the subject
Your EU proposal XXXXX - acronym; rejection? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Thanks!
I have turned off the email notifications on my mobile.

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:33 pm
by Bloom
Chem 2019 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:25 pm
I think you are right. I have also 10 years of postdoc experience with tens of papers and wrote a strong proposal, the best I have ever written. I have gotten excellent fellowships with less solid proposal but now it seems that I am too aged for the reviewers. It is shit to work in science. I see some people get an assistant professor position in top universities even without any postdoc experience and even without one paper published (until now) from their PhD. You may not believe me but this is true. It is shit

Bloom wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:12 pm
Chem 2019 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:33 pm
I don’t understand how it works. My proposal was much better than that of last year, yet I got a lower score!! Thanks Dreamer for replying me.


The same for me, I am really shoked, a lower score than last years with an improved and revised project... my question is about the choice ok key words for the evaluation phase. I am in SOC, but my project is very interdisciplinary and I suspect I should indicate other panel to ne evaluated (I am dealing with digital humanities methods and I suspect sociologists don't appreaciated it so much, you know, I am not into the mainstream.... It is a big problem for me!). Not to talk about the gender in the proposal: last time I insert a paragraph and the evaliator said: the gender is well explained etc etc but you but you've never been involved in gender studies, so you're not credible. This year I avoided to insert the gender, and I am curios to read them... probably they will sey, your propsal is good, but there is a lack of gender domension, I am pretty sure of this...
Finally, and sorry for the very long post, I think the age is imoortant: I am 40 yo and I held my phd ten year ago... I think they don't want to finance project written by senior researchers, otherwise i cant explain the strange evaluation I had and I am going to have again...
Good luck to all and thanks

I believe you, I am in the same situation, and I dont know if you are familiar with the Italian scientific context: it is even worse.
Sometimes I wonder if I have to be brave, to do this job, or I am obtuse. I feel I am more obtuse than courageous.

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:34 pm
by FestivusShadow
Someone just told me that the official results will be announced at the end of the week or most probably on the last day.

Although I know my result, I would hate to wait so much.

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:43 pm
by jmk12
What kind of a "someone" was it?

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:43 pm
by NoPanic42
FestivusShadow wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:34 pm
Someone just told me that the official results will be announced at the end of the week or most probably on the last day.

Although I know my result, I would hate to wait so much.
Who told you? if I may ask

Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:45 pm
by zhiqiang
NoPanic42 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:43 pm
FestivusShadow wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:34 pm
Someone just told me that the official results will be announced at the end of the week or most probably on the last day.

Although I know my result, I would hate to wait so much.
Who told you? if I may ask
Same question