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PetetheCat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:58 pm

We have a lot of us still in evaluation. Let's just get drunk this weekend, and who knows what next week will bring!!

msca2019 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:08 pm

Stat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:44 pm

Hi guys,

With your permission, let me join your party:-)
I was lurking for about a month or more and decided - finally - to write something
I am in the CAR and still in Evaluation as Dreamer, and PetetheCAt, to name a few.
I have been reading the previous threads and also the current one, frankly speaking, there isn't that much that you can read from your status, especially if you are still under Evaluation. Plenty of those who were ranked previously ended up not receiving the grant.There is one applicant who got the grant, was under evaluation, and never went to the ranking status:
Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)
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Post by MSCAA2019 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:24 pm
Main list. 97.4 MSCA-SE.
Thanks dreamer.
BTW, my status is still in "evaluation".
Good luck to everyone!


Also, of those who were under evaluation either they got the grant or they scored below 70.

The following is copied from the updated H2020 online manual:

FINAL EVALUATION RESULTS
Before notifying coordinators of the final evaluation results, the Commission reviews the results of the experts’ evaluation and puts together the final ranking list.

Proposals will not be offered funding if the Commission finds that it is already funding very similar work elsewhere, or a proposal is in any way manifestly contrary to established EU or Euratom policies.

Final rankings

The Commission:

produces a ranked list of proposals, including all proposals with scores above the qualifying score
draws up a list of proposals for possible funding from that list. The number of proposals in the list depends on the available budget.
Each page of topic conditions of a call on the Participant Portal gives approximate timelines when coordinators will receive information on the outcome of the evaluation.

Reserve list

If the available budget is too small to fund all proposals that reached the qualifying score in the evaluation round, some proposals may be put on a reserve list – of proposals that may be offered funding if a higher-scoring project does not go ahead or additional funds become available.

When a proposal is placed on the reserve list, the coordinator is informed. The Commission may also specify a date after which grant agreement is unlikely to be offered.

Rejection decisions

The Commission will notify proposal coordinators if their proposal has been rejected because:

it is found to be inadmissible or ineligible (before or during the evaluation)
it falls short of the relevant thresholds
it is too far down the ranked list to qualify for the limited amount of funding available
if it fails to obtain ethics clearance, following an ethics review (see Article 13.3 - Rules for participation and the ethics section
it raises security concerns.

General rule: Evaluation < 70 Ranking > 70. System can have glitches that is why you have one or two people per year maybe without the ranking change in my opinion.
Ranking only means you got the cutoff. If there were available funding all above 70 would have been funded. Unfortunately there is not and the MSCA proposals are so competitive the funded cutoffs are insanely high.
HOWEVER you must remember EC does not only have MSCA it has other calls as well where successful results are closer to 80-85 in this case the Ranking status has more meaning than in the MSCA IF case

In any way. Patience is a virtue ... which we all seem to lack :p But we should try to stay cool and not trying to find secrets and conspiracy theories in everything

Dino20 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:09 pm

PetetheCat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:58 pm

We have a lot of us still in evaluation. Let's just get drunk this weekend, and who knows what next week will bring!!

Hangover + MSCA result

jivan wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:38 pm

Hello dear all.

It´s my first time in this forum. I submitted a proposal in ENG Pannel. Is there any place where we could find information?

jivan wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:38 pm

Hello dear all.

It´s my first time in this forum. I submitted a proposal in ENG Pannel. Is there any place where we could find information?

msca2019 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:08 pm

Stat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:44 pm

Hi guys,

With your permission, let me join your party:-)
I was lurking for about a month or more and decided - finally - to write something
I am in the CAR and still in Evaluation as Dreamer, and PetetheCAt, to name a few.
I have been reading the previous threads and also the current one, frankly speaking, there isn't that much that you can read from your status, especially if you are still under Evaluation. Plenty of those who were ranked previously ended up not receiving the grant.There is one applicant who got the grant, was under evaluation, and never went to the ranking status:
Re: 2019 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2019)
Report this post
Post by MSCAA2019 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:24 pm
Main list. 97.4 MSCA-SE.
Thanks dreamer.
BTW, my status is still in "evaluation".
Good luck to everyone!


Also, of those who were under evaluation either they got the grant or they scored below 70.

The following is copied from the updated H2020 online manual:

FINAL EVALUATION RESULTS
Before notifying coordinators of the final evaluation results, the Commission reviews the results of the experts’ evaluation and puts together the final ranking list.

Proposals will not be offered funding if the Commission finds that it is already funding very similar work elsewhere, or a proposal is in any way manifestly contrary to established EU or Euratom policies.

Final rankings

The Commission:

produces a ranked list of proposals, including all proposals with scores above the qualifying score
draws up a list of proposals for possible funding from that list. The number of proposals in the list depends on the available budget.
Each page of topic conditions of a call on the Participant Portal gives approximate timelines when coordinators will receive information on the outcome of the evaluation.

Reserve list

If the available budget is too small to fund all proposals that reached the qualifying score in the evaluation round, some proposals may be put on a reserve list – of proposals that may be offered funding if a higher-scoring project does not go ahead or additional funds become available.

When a proposal is placed on the reserve list, the coordinator is informed. The Commission may also specify a date after which grant agreement is unlikely to be offered.

Rejection decisions

The Commission will notify proposal coordinators if their proposal has been rejected because:

it is found to be inadmissible or ineligible (before or during the evaluation)
it falls short of the relevant thresholds
it is too far down the ranked list to qualify for the limited amount of funding available
if it fails to obtain ethics clearance, following an ethics review (see Article 13.3 - Rules for participation and the ethics section
it raises security concerns.

General rule: Evaluation < 70 Ranking > 70. System can have glitches that is why you have one or two people per year maybe without the ranking change in my opinion.
Ranking only means you got the cutoff. If there were available funding all above 70 would have been funded. Unfortunately there is not and the MSCA proposals are so competitive the funded cutoffs are insanely high.
HOWEVER you must remember EC does not only have MSCA it has other calls as well where successful results are closer to 80-85 in this case the Ranking status has more meaning than in the MSCA IF case

In any way. Patience is a virtue ... which we all seem to lack :p But we should try to stay cool and not trying to find secrets and conspiracy theories in everything