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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:57 pm
by triad_Mon
Meanwhile, the funding and tenders portal is undergoing lots of changes.

Yesterday, 'my expert area' appeared briefly on the left side-bar. I tried pressing but it was un-responsive. It then disappeared. (I'm not an evaluator)

I'm wondering if you can see the 'formal notifications' section under 'my proposals' or it's been there from previous grants.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:58 pm
by Fuglen_49
Status: Ranking
Change: Tue (March 1) checked at 3:28 pm (Changed after last check at 13:45 UTC+1)
Panel: EF - Env
First letter acronym: E
First letter of last name: A

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:58 pm
by AnotherCandidate
For me

Status: Ranking
Change: Wed (March 2) 9:40 AM
Panel: GF - PHY
First letter acronym: M
First letter of last name: B

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:58 pm
by MSCCCCCC
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:53 pm
I summarised the following information based on my experience and comparative studies made from this link.

The person who went to ranking at the very beginning got the grant or scored above 70 and below 85.

The person who went to ranking after a long time stays in the evaluation scored above 85 and got grant or reverse list or closed to target value.

The person has the information phase means who scored below 70 or have eligibility issue.

I noted the username, their phase change from submission to ranking directly or submission to evaluations to ranking, their panel, percentage of the score if they mentioned in the message with their panel.

Please visit last year forum from 175 page onwards for better clarity.
Cr@zyChem wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:46 pm
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:43 pm
I did already with the username who got grant or reserved list with their posting time and phase status changed with last three years. I noted in text book rather than the excel sheet.
Is it possible for you share this data with us? Thanks a bunch
It seems from this "The person who went to ranking at the very beginning got the grant or scored above 70 and below 85." that the only thing ranking in the very beginning means then is they scored higher than 70 and didn't score between 85% and whatever the cutoff point was ... strange!

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
by triad_Mon
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:53 pm
I summarised the following information based on my experience and comparative studies made from this link.

The person who went to ranking at the very beginning got the grant or scored above 70 and below 85.

The person who went to ranking after a long time stays in the evaluation scored above 85 and got grant or reverse list or closed to target value.

The person has the information phase means who scored below 70 or have eligibility issue.

I noted the username, their phase change from submission to ranking directly or submission to evaluations to ranking, their panel, percentage of the score if they mentioned in the message with their panel.

Please visit last year forum from 175 page onwards for better clarity.
Cr@zyChem wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:46 pm
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:43 pm
I did already with the username who got grant or reserved list with their posting time and phase status changed with last three years. I noted in text book rather than the excel sheet.
Is it possible for you share this data with us? Thanks a bunch
Once you have a final document, you can also put it on an on-line google form, where unregistered users can also put their data.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:04 pm
by CatTaotao
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:53 pm
I summarised the following information based on my experience and comparative studies made from this link.

The person who went to ranking at the very beginning got the grant or scored above 70 and below 85.

The person who went to ranking after a long time stays in the evaluation scored above 85 and got grant or reverse list or closed to target value.

The person has the information phase means who scored below 70 or have eligibility issue.

I noted the username, their phase change from submission to ranking directly or submission to evaluations to ranking, their panel, percentage of the score if they mentioned in the message with their panel.

Please visit last year forum from 175 page onwards for better clarity.
Cr@zyChem wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:46 pm
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:43 pm
I did already with the username who got grant or reserved list with their posting time and phase status changed with last three years. I noted in text book rather than the excel sheet.
Is it possible for you share this data with us? Thanks a bunch
What I found from the last year, was the opposite. I found almost all the 20~ people who report their ranking early got fund.
The first report was on 3pm~ 3rd of Feb 2021.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:04 pm
by EF-LIF-2021
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

Important sentence:

"After Panel finalizes its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order
of the total score in their respective panel ranking list."

It is my old post. Based on that I think that proposals are ranked from the highest score to lowest score in respective panel.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
by triad_Mon
EF-LIF-2021 wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:04 pm
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

Important sentence:

"After Panel finalizes its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order
of the total score in their respective panel ranking list."
Once again, this says nothing about the time your 'phase' changes. It is just about the visual order.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:07 pm
by chemcps
Yes. I agree with you. But you can read their entire message in the forum.
CatTaotao wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:04 pm
chemcps wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:53 pm
I summarised the following information based on my experience and comparative studies made from this link.

The person who went to ranking at the very beginning got the grant or scored above 70 and below 85.

The person who went to ranking after a long time stays in the evaluation scored above 85 and got grant or reverse list or closed to target value.

The person has the information phase means who scored below 70 or have eligibility issue.

I noted the username, their phase change from submission to ranking directly or submission to evaluations to ranking, their panel, percentage of the score if they mentioned in the message with their panel.

Please visit last year forum from 175 page onwards for better clarity.
Cr@zyChem wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:46 pm

Is it possible for you share this data with us? Thanks a bunch
What I found from the last year, was the opposite. I found almost all the 20~ people who report their ranking early got fund.
The first report was on 3pm~ 3rd of Feb 2021.

Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:09 pm
by aspil
EF-LIF-2021 wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:04 pm
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

Important sentence:

"After Panel finalizes its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order
of the total score in their respective panel ranking list."
Could both 'rankings' be the same? What is SEP system? If it is a computer, how long does it take to rank ~1000 entities??