2020 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2020)

[MSCA_CHEM_2019]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

[doggoss]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I think EC has made it clear that if you were going to get a positive result you would already know long before now.

[Matttmaxxx]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I think EC has made it clear that if you were going to get a positive result you would already know long before now.

I really haven't seen them state that explicitly. I have 0 hope I'll get it, but we haven't heard of many people in SOC who got it for example.

[MSCA_2020_RI_SWE]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I think EC has made it clear that if you were going to get a positive result you would already know long before now.

I guess at this point even just getting an email today and not in a week is a positive result

[senior wrangler]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I am not a potential fellow but a potential host. I know from two different universities that they all got a batch of result through this morning (all either successful or reserve list), and then no new results since about 9-10am.

Btw, now I am honestly starting to be piss off independently of the rejection. The point is that even if you think you will be rejected, you never give up completely till you read about it...and I honestly do not see any reason for not sending all the emails today. I am sure they could do that. There must have been a problem with their system as it would be really crazy if they planned before to send all the emails to the winners and then make the others wait for a couple of day. That would be unacceptable. The only good reason I can think of is a technical problem....

The anger is justified. It is incredibly insensitive and disrespectful to all the unsuccessful applicants and host, and host institutions, to trickle out some of the results and then announce that the results are announced. To leave 10,000 people and their associated contacts just hanging with no concrete knowledge and only the unpleasant suspicion that they have failed is completely inconsistent with values around creating a supportive and understanding research culture, reducing stress, etc. etc. Rejection is never nice (and remember: really it just your proposals that have been unsuccessful, not you) but there are ways to reject people graciously and well, what MSCA did today was not one of them.

[mArkangjel]

Same for me, RI and nothing arrived so far, I really hope they are not sending emails based on the score

Europe doesn't want us back apparently... Well, their loss! for it doesn't cost us anything to resubmit the project again in the fall (i hope the eligibility still stands for all RI folks and others!!)

apparently!
I'm lucky enough to already have another position ready for me at my host institution and I'll be still able to send another proposal next year. I have been almost 8 years in the states and honestly, I can't wait to be back in Europe. Good luck with your career and don't give up!

RI applicant here too. I got my results through the DreamTeam yesterday - didn't go through. Million thanks to the DreamTeam, words cannot describe how grateful I am for putting me out of my misery Congratulations to all awardees - all of you have made it through such a fierce competition, it's just amazing!

I am not particularly discouraged and although this is my first time applying for this funding, I think I might be done with academia for now. As the economy begins recovering, my plan is to focus heavily on industry positions either in the US or Europe.

I think this whole process of spending serious amounts of time (that nobody really pays us for) on writing grant proposals that have ever-decreasing odds of getting through even if you score decently high, might simply not be something I want to subject myself to in the coming period. Given that grant writing is what is nowadays expected from professors, maybe academia is not the right place for me.

Good luck to all in your future endeavors!

[knowledgeMSCA]

So.......no email received = Rejected proposal?

[dftortosa]

Hi everyone!

Congratulations to all the awardees!

I just found that the cutoff of my area is the same than the score of my proposal. I understand that someone with the same score got funded based on additional priorities as described in the applicant guide.

Do you think is a good option to ask for re-evaluation in this situation? There are several weaknesses that could be rebutted, but I do not know how the process works. They can give you a lower score in the new evaluation? In that case, it could be too much risk being high in the reserve list.

Thank you!

[mArkangjel]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I am not a potential fellow but a potential host. I know from two different universities that they all got a batch of result through this morning (all either successful or reserve list), and then no new results since about 9-10am.

Btw, now I am honestly starting to be piss off independently of the rejection. The point is that even if you think you will be rejected, you never give up completely till you read about it...and I honestly do not see any reason for not sending all the emails today. I am sure they could do that. There must have been a problem with their system as it would be really crazy if they planned before to send all the emails to the winners and then make the others wait for a couple of day. That would be unacceptable. The only good reason I can think of is a technical problem....

The anger is justified. It is incredibly insensitive and disrespectful to all the unsuccessful applicants and host, and host institutions, to trickle out some of the results and then announce that the results aren't announced. To leave 10,000 people and their associated contacts just hanging with no concrete knowledge and only the unpleasant suspicion that they have failed is completely inconsistent with values around creating a supportive and understanding research culture, reducing stress, etc. etc. Rejection is never nice (and remember: really it just your proposals that have been unsuccessful, not you) but there are ways to reject people graciously and well, what MSCA did today was not one of them.

Well said. If you ask me, they should have announced the results of the reviews weeks ago. Then they can do their ranking and budget distribution and announce the main lists, the reserve lists and so on. This would have saved everyone soooo much time, especially given that almost 90% of all applicants don't get funded and many of them lived in agony over the past 5-6 weeks, waiting for the news to move on.

[Seh]

Some positive result this afternoon-evening?

I think EC has made it clear that if you were going to get a positive result you would already know long before now.

I guess at this point even just getting an email today and not in a week is a positive result

Definitely