2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

[StuckInPostDocHell]

A quick reminder for those "across the pond" that daylight savings time is still very much a thing, but it's on a different date than you cross-oceanic weirdos
So you don't pull any additional hairs (if here are any left at this point).

[michelef]

But the number of applicants went down from last year isnt it. Its in 7500 or something for the European fellowship. I think its 30% lesser than last year but so has the funding amount decreased by the same margin

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Yes. I was also wondering if the sudden announced of Russian institutes not being allowed in the Horizon Europe grants might have an effect on this years all EC fundings?

That's a good point, and it also depends on how the situation evolves... If the budget remains the same (which I think will be, as it is defined in advance) there will probably be more money for other institution/counties, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. Russia is already excluded from regular ERC grants (it is not an associated country), and msca global fellowships to Russia are probably not that many

[horizon]

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Yes. I was also wondering if the sudden announced of Russian institutes not being allowed in the Horizon Europe grants might have an effect on this years all EC fundings?

That's a good point, and it also depends on how the situation evolves... If the budget remains the same (which I think will be, as it is defined in advance) there will probably be more money for other institution/counties, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. Russia is already excluded from regular ERC grants (it is not an associated country), and msca global fellowships to Russia are probably not that many

I read from a report by the EC that they might save 12 million euros by not granting funding to Russian institutes. Whether it is yearly or over a 7 year period of Horizon Europe, that wasnt clear

[michelef]

Yes. I was also wondering if the sudden announced of Russian institutes not being allowed in the Horizon Europe grants might have an effect on this years all EC fundings?

That's a good point, and it also depends on how the situation evolves... If the budget remains the same (which I think will be, as it is defined in advance) there will probably be more money for other institution/counties, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. Russia is already excluded from regular ERC grants (it is not an associated country), and msca global fellowships to Russia are probably not that many

I read from a report by the EC that they might save 12 million euros by not granting funding to Russian institutes. Whether it is yearly or over a 7 year period of Horizon Europe, that wasnt clear

Yeah not that much... 12 millions is like ~10 ERC starting grants or ~6 consolidator grants. But still a few more chances to get funded for EU applicants or people moving to EU

[Yao]

whether it comes or not, we can arrange the zoom party tomorrow. I think nobody can be calm tomorrow, either approved or rejected or not come out.

[KathyHappy]

Only one day to go guys, I'm so nervous.... my feeling is so complicated

[sparklingabc]

I really hope emails start to arrive from midnight... even at the cost of not sleeping to wait the email

But the number of applicants went down from last year isnt it. Its in 7500 or something for the European fellowship. I think its 30% lesser than last year but so has the funding amount decreased by the same margin

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, doesn't the budget exclude fellowships in the UK while the total number of applicants (7500) includes those planning to conduct research in the UK? I read a post by a forum member that the UK will fund the winners separately. Given that the UK is the single most popular host country, doesn't that explain the budget reduction for the MSCA this year?

Or maybe I completely misinterpreted everything.

[horizon]

But the number of applicants went down from last year isnt it. Its in 7500 or something for the European fellowship. I think its 30% lesser than last year but so has the funding amount decreased by the same margin

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, doesn't the budget exclude fellowships in the UK while the total number of applicants (7500) includes those planning to conduct research in the UK? I read a post by a forum member that the UK will fund the winners separately. Given that the UK is the single most popular host country, doesn't that explain the budget reduction for the MSCA this year?

Or maybe I completely misinterpreted everything.

[AnotherCandidate]

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, doesn't the budget exclude fellowships in the UK while the total number of applicants (7500) includes those planning to conduct research in the UK? I read a post by a forum member that the UK will fund the winners separately. Given that the UK is the single most popular host country, doesn't that explain the budget reduction for the MSCA this year?

Or maybe I completely misinterpreted everything.

I thought of you the moment I saw this message

[michelef]

But the number of applicants went down from last year isnt it. Its in 7500 or something for the European fellowship. I think its 30% lesser than last year but so has the funding amount decreased by the same margin

Yes indeed, the number of applicants decreased sharply... But I don't think this is due to the 8 years cutoff, 30% is a large number to be only applicants with more than 8 years after the phd. I remember I saw some statistics showing that the majority of applications are from people with a few years after phd... But I can't remember exactly where I saw that, so I may be wrong.

ERC grants also had much less budget in the first year of Horizon Europe, but it will be increased in the following years, so I hope they will also increase the msca budget and that applications remains fewer as in this call

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, doesn't the budget exclude fellowships in the UK while the total number of applicants (7500) includes those planning to conduct research in the UK? I read a post by a forum member that the UK will fund the winners separately. Given that the UK is the single most popular host country, doesn't that explain the budget reduction for the MSCA this year?

Or maybe I completely misinterpreted everything.

UK is still an associated country, so I think the overall budget includes grants to the UK.
To my understanding, each associated country pays some operational costs to the EU, which then pays the grants.