2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

horizon
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by horizon » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:56 am

I don't feel the excitement of the results anymore. That's sad

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:58 am

horizon wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:56 am
I don't feel the excitement of the results anymore. That's sad
Me neither. I'm jaded...

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Abz » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:35 am

I still think it can be related to the UK's participation. We don't know if the EU has finally approved the UK's participation from what UKRI says about it here (https://www.ukri.org/apply-for-funding/horizon-europe/), and if UK based researchers will be excluded from signing grant agreements, then a new ranking will have to be created given they will not reduce the amount. The UK based researchers who would have won a fellowship will be paid by UKRI. I think this is plausible.

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 am

Abz wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:35 am
I still think it can be related to the UK's participation. We don't know if the EU has finally approved the UK's participation from what UKRI says about it here (https://www.ukri.org/apply-for-funding/horizon-europe/), and if UK based researchers will be excluded from signing grant agreements, then a new ranking will have to be created given they will not reduce the amount. The UK based researchers who would have won a fellowship will be paid by UKRI. I think this is plausible.
Here we are...!

I feel like I'm stuck in a time loop
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Abz
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Abz » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am

MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 am
Abz wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:35 am
I still think it can be related to the UK's participation. We don't know if the EU has finally approved the UK's participation from what UKRI says about it here (https://www.ukri.org/apply-for-funding/horizon-europe/), and if UK based researchers will be excluded from signing grant agreements, then a new ranking will have to be created given they will not reduce the amount. The UK based researchers who would have won a fellowship will be paid by UKRI. I think this is plausible.
Here we are...!

I feel like I'm stuck in a time warp
"The EU is still in the process of formalising the UK’s association."
This is what the UKRI says. Are you certain that it is formalised? It may not be because of the Northern Ireland Protocol dispute. So it is possible.

alabulie
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by alabulie » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am

paros wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:45 am
Good morning everyone. I think that all of us should make a complaint in EU portal. I am doing this now.
Where can you make a complaint? In the application portal, if I click on "Launch new interaction with the EU" there are "No options available".

I think we should really bother them until they make a formal announcement about the delay.

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by horizon » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:47 am

alabulie wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am
paros wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:45 am
Good morning everyone. I think that all of us should make a complaint in EU portal. I am doing this now.
Where can you make a complaint? In the application portal, if I click on "Launch new interaction with the EU" there are "No options available".

I think we should really bother them until they make a formal announcement about the delay.
I think tweeting to them would be a better strategy

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:51 am

Abz wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 am
Abz wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:35 am
I still think it can be related to the UK's participation. We don't know if the EU has finally approved the UK's participation from what UKRI says about it here (https://www.ukri.org/apply-for-funding/horizon-europe/), and if UK based researchers will be excluded from signing grant agreements, then a new ranking will have to be created given they will not reduce the amount. The UK based researchers who would have won a fellowship will be paid by UKRI. I think this is plausible.
Here we are...!

I feel like I'm stuck in a time warp
"The EU is still in the process of formalising the UK’s association."
This is what the UKRI says. Are you certain that it is formalised? It may not be because of the Northern Ireland Protocol dispute. So it is possible.
ERC released the results for the ERC-CoG last week... So why do they wait for the results of MSCA if it was related to Brexit?
Did you see the info on UKRI website? Maybe it is not updated?!

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by alabulie » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:58 am

horizon wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:47 am
alabulie wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am
paros wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:45 am
Good morning everyone. I think that all of us should make a complaint in EU portal. I am doing this now.
Where can you make a complaint? In the application portal, if I click on "Launch new interaction with the EU" there are "No options available".

I think we should really bother them until they make a formal announcement about the delay.
I think tweeting to them would be a better strategy
I have privately messaged them yesterday and no reply. I have seen a couple of tweets with the #MSCA hashtag but also no reply there. At least in the EU portal they are required to reply.

Abz
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Abz » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:01 am

MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:51 am
Abz wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:42 am
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 am


Here we are...!

I feel like I'm stuck in a time warp
"The EU is still in the process of formalising the UK’s association."
This is what the UKRI says. Are you certain that it is formalised? It may not be because of the Northern Ireland Protocol dispute. So it is possible.
ERC released the results for the ERC-CoG last week... So why do they wait for the results of MSCA if it was related to Brexit?
Did you see the info on UKRI website? Maybe it is not updated?!
Yes, from the website. What you say makes more sense.

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