2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)
Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)
Sorry guys…. But how the stamp date can be related to the ranking one ? This would mean that they completed the evaluation After just ten days… c’mon… high levels of paranoia
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Yeah indeed with such early timestamps it's impossible that the date it's related to evaluation/ranking. Maybe the time-stamp indicates when the proposal was formally registered to be sent to reviewers
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It was expected that they uploaded the details of the proposals but it did not went in order.
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Ok, thanks. Tryng to find a confort zone while waiting. The best would be avoiding to look for it and just waiting..
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I don't think people are saying it is linked to evaluation completion, but indicating an order of processing the applications. If the application was processed on an earlier date then its final scores would be entered early. A proposal that went for evaluation on 22 Oct and to ranking on 1 March is likely to score a higher grade than one that went to evaluation on 21 Oct and ranking on 2 March. I hope I explained it well
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)
Evaluation starts roughly 1 month after submission. The time stamp might simply mean 'eligibility check done'.
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Essentially just a theory, may not mean anything but it helps us not focussing on 'when are they going to release the results'Abz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:10 pmI don't think people are saying it is linked to evaluation completion, but indicating an order of processing the applications. If the application was processed on an earlier date then its final scores would be entered early. A proposal that went for evaluation on 22 Oct and to ranking on 1 March is likely to score a higher grade than one that went to evaluation on 21 Oct and ranking on 2 March. I hope I explained it well
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No, not at all. First, proposals go to evaluation at least one month after submission. Second, the speed of evaluation fully depends on the remote expert evaluating the proposal. This might be seriously delayed for several reasons. Third, a speedy evaluation most likely means that either the proposal is top-quality or it's really bad; this is because in either case it's quite easy to write an IER. Although, at least in my experience, very bad proposals are really hard to evaluate because there is no substance to substantiate your judgement, and definitely you can't just write that the proposal just fails or sucks or whatever negative thing. These things are taken very seriously by the EU, because such negative evaluations might give raise to a redress procedure.Abz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:10 pmI don't think people are saying it is linked to evaluation completion, but indicating an order of processing the applications. If the application was processed on an earlier date then its final scores would be entered early. A proposal that went for evaluation on 22 Oct and to ranking on 1 March is likely to score a higher grade than one that went to evaluation on 21 Oct and ranking on 2 March. I hope I explained it well
All in all, I don't think we may forecast anything, except that the results will be delivered later than expected at an undefined point in time
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)
anonymous_insider wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:16 pmNo, not at all. First, proposals go to evaluation at least one month after submission. Second, the speed of evaluation fully depends on the remote expert evaluating the proposal. This might be seriously delayed for several reasons. Third, a speedy evaluation most likely means that either the proposal is top-quality or it's really bad; this is because in either case it's quite easy to write an IER. Although, at least in my experience, very bad proposals are really hard to evaluate because there is no substance to substantiate your judgement, and definitely you can't just write that the proposal just fails or sucks or whatever negative thing. These things are taken very seriously by the EU, because such negative evaluations might give raise to a redress procedure.Abz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:10 pmI don't think people are saying it is linked to evaluation completion, but indicating an order of processing the applications. If the application was processed on an earlier date then its final scores would be entered early. A proposal that went for evaluation on 22 Oct and to ranking on 1 March is likely to score a higher grade than one that went to evaluation on 21 Oct and ranking on 2 March. I hope I explained it well
All in all, I don't think we may forecast anything, except that the results will be delivered later than expected at an undefined point in time
EDIT: The consensus panel meets on one day only. All the ESRs should be ready at the same time. Then they are uploaded gradually.