2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

[anonymous_insider]

Are you saying that in the past years when you had applied and got the MSCA or got rejected, you followed the so called 'magic link'?

This is the first time I get to know of the 'magic link' (I wish I knew of it before...). But I've always been trying to hack the back-end of the EU website... Of course, to no avail. What I am saying, as a former evaluator, is that once the evaluation starts, proposals may be set to the 'ranking' status at any time.
On a side note: I have also tried to modify the 'magic link' to adapt it to what an evaluator might see in their browser's address bar, and I was denied access.
But I can tell you that during an evaluation so many things can go wrong: (1) remote experts withdrawing for whatever reason; (2) remote experts being revoked because of emerging conflicts of interest... I've been in both places as a remote evaluator. And these things definitely delay the evaluation process significantly.
But all in all I feel so ugh! As a remote evaluator myself, I now understand the hurdles. And TRUST ME they are SO MANY. But as an applicant, I still keep thinking 'what the f**k are they doing?'

I think the issue is that some of us had our status changed to Evaluation since March 1 with no update while others moved rapidly to Rankingwhich leaves the EVALUATION team wondering whether to give up already and keep a little % of hope alive

My participant portal 'proposals' page changed on Feb 16th. Before, I could not see the timeline, I could only re-download the proposal. This also happened with another proposal in the past and it told me that the EC is going to send the ESR soon. How soon only they know

[MSCA_SOC_2019]

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

[XmendeleievX]

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

How do you disable styles?

[UKR]

Yes I have the same.

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

[UKR]

I checked even I have the GAP for rejected ones.

Yes I have the same.

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

[anonymous_insider]

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

Yes, that should be normal. It made me loose 10 years of my life when I first saw it years ago. GAP is a general term, you find it in every proposal.

[althusser]

Good morning y'all
The tension is getting higher and the time till the announcement seems like an eternity
I don't want to be party pooper here, but since we all keep visiting the forum even though we want to remain calm and stay as far as possible from speculation, why don't we discuss something of greater importance, like how did you really write your proposal, how long was your state-of-the art, did you use a graphic for your research design (in SOC for instance), did you assess risks in a table or in text, how did you cover the gender aspect if gender was irrelevant for your project, how many WP did you have, did you do a coloured Gantt chart etc. You know, things like that. These are questions that I'm still preoccupied with as I am already trying to rewrite my next year's proposal in my head.

[MSCCCCCC]

Hi guys,

I noted that when I go to the follow-up section of my proposal, then clic on follow-up, then Document library and finally disable the styles, I have a document labelled GAP-XXXX.
GAP means Grant Agreement Preparation according to the EU website.

Can you see it too?

How do you disable styles?

Actually, you don't need to disable styles, if you click on "process" (rather than "date") it's there GAP-proposal number
don't think this means much...

[MSCCCCCC]

Good morning y'all
The tension is getting higher and the time till the announcement seems like an eternity
I don't want to be party pooper here, but since we all keep visiting the forum even though we want to remain calm and stay as far as possible from speculation, why don't we discuss something of greater importance, like how did you really write your proposal, how long was your state-of-the art, did you use a graphic for your research design (in SOC for instance), did you assess risks in a table or in text, how did you cover the gender aspect if gender was irrelevant for your project, how many WP did you have, did you do a coloured Gantt chart etc. You know, things like that. These are questions that I'm still preoccupied with as I am already trying to rewrite my next year's proposal in my head.

if by state of the art you mean the very first part of B1 (before "sounds of proposed methodology", mine was about 1.5 pgs. I did use a couple of figures to illustrate the different experiments (I was strongly advised to do this by people who have read over this type of project), 4 work packages, risks in table and coloured Gantt chart And I'm in SOC

[dw2022]

Post by ENV2021 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:30 pm

Hi there,
a friend of mine is an MC evaluator and I would like to share with you what he explained to me about the evaluation process.
Three evaluators per proposal plus a chair that supervises the process. Each evaluator may evaluate a few proposals (10-15).
Each evaluator produces a report individually without sharing his comments; only when the three evaluators have submitted their reports it starts a consensus phase when the evaluators discuss their comments about the proposal. When they reach a consensus, and only then, they propose the score, always under the supervision of the chair. They are not allowed to see the evaluation report of the previous submitted proposal (if any) nor to know the old score, actually, this report remains undisclosed; the chair may ask the evaluators to rediscuss specific points if he considers it necessary.
Evaluators have to follow a specific point list and that is why it is so important to fill out the proposal including each and every point specified in the guideline, being specific, concrete. And you have to say the right things where they are expected to be in the proposal, not elsewhere in the text. If you state something in the "excellence" part that should have been stated in the "impact" part, well...that is your fault.
Regarding the CV, effectively the number of papers doesn't care, as it said in the guideline you may be penalised only if according to your research career you have not produced enough; evaluators check your CV to have an idea of what you have done before, especially to determine if your training programme is appropriate and if you effectively are going to learn something new which is the most important thing in this fellowship, besides project excellence. He also told me that many of the projects he reviewed were excellent but even in this case if you fail addressing all and each point they have to start to decrease the score, and few tenths of a point means getting or not the fellowship or even getting a bad score.
Said that..of course, subjectivity is impossible to remove but at least I think this is the most well-designed evaluation process I know.

Dig out a post from 2019 (page 63), might be inspiring somehow