2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

[Kaepirinha]

Ok, I participate to the Fanta Marie Curie and I am on ranking, It could have happened any time today. SOC panel. My proposal is on a top EU current priority, top supervisor, top host Institution - I have a great publications single authored , work in policy and academia, Expert in my field, I am sure I did a great proposal and I am saying all this to Say that I am completely aware that despite all of this It can easily fail (which I expect), It Is Indeed a lottery, so hang on there and do not be discouraged by yourself as we cannot control everything! Good luck guys!

The thing is that all of us think that our supervisors are the top ones.. Best record track...etc. Not a comment for you, for all. It is funny to read all of this. Everyone see the world as he/she pleases. For me, the true is that someone doing something extraordinary helpful in the field could review the proposal once or 0. I would like to know all of these 'top' researchers.

[Axe]

As we can see, status switches are made in batches throughout several days. Is there any pattern? Anyway, I only can notice the academic insane loop involving any grant call, though it promotes the fellow holder well-being...

The question is: what is the basis for the MSCA ranking system? i.e which of the proposals are ranked first, second, third...etc?

Maybe Project scores and Project acronyms?

[pav]

As we can see, status switches are made in batches throughout several days. Is there any pattern? Anyway, I only can notice the academic insane loop involving any grant call, though it promotes the fellow holder well-being...

The question is: what is the basis for the MSCA ranking system? i.e which of the proposals are ranked first, second, third...etc?

Maybe Project scores and Project acronyms?

I can give you a counter example to ranking by acronym. Mine starts with A and last year I switched to ranking many days after people started to report they did. Plus the spreadsheet also shows no correlation with the acronym.

[belin]

As it has been said before, there is likely no logic in the timing of the ranking. It seems more or less clear that the ranking process is not done by a machine but by a person (or several of them) per panel in batches for one week.

The timing to ranking, as manifested by several users before, is utterly opaque to us (as a matter of fact, even the RANKING status is most likely meaningless). It may be perfectly possible that we are categorized based on the arrival date of our evaluations from the reviewers/keywords within the panel (e.g., inorganic chemistry, theoretical chemistry)/postdoctoral experience/host country or any other indicator that we cannot track. Damn, it may well also be that the clerk in charge of dumping a particular batch of proposals has other duties or is on their day off! It may also be that early "RANKERS" will get the fellowship as well, but my point is that there are SO many unknown things that all we are doing is speculating, which is funny but may distress some other people, so please have these people in mind.

[Axe]

As it has been said before, there is likely no logic in the timing of the ranking. It seems more or less clear that the ranking process is not done by a machine but by a person (or several of them) per panel in batches for one week.

The timing to ranking, as manifested by several users before, is utterly opaque to us (as a matter of fact, even the RANKING status is most likely meaningless). It may be perfectly possible that we are categorized based on the arrival date of our evaluations from the reviewers/keywords within the panel (e.g., inorganic chemistry, theoretical chemistry)/postdoctoral experience/host country or any other indicator that we cannot track. Damn, it may well also be that the clerk in charge of dumping a particular batch of proposals has other duties or is on their day off! It may also be that early "RANKERS" will get the fellowship as well, but my point is that there are SO many unknown things that all we are doing is speculating, which is funny but may distress some other people, so please have these people in mind.

Thanks! Indeed, there are so many unknowns. But academia and anxiety/stress are inseparable. I find forums like this as a good platfom to let off steam. Thanks to the magic link at least we know what's happening to our proposals. Waiting for about 6months without knowing the status of your application is even more stressful and detrimental....

[Fish]

Last year, I got to the ranking phase quite early and I got 91 (SOC panel). Now I am still in evaluation (it's a resubmission). I find it hard to believe that this year the same project got less than 70. Technically, it is possible, but it would be weird. We shouldn't worry too much about the ranking, I think, but speculation is always fun

Hi everyone
How do we have to check if we went to Ranking or if we are under evaluation?. I can not find it in my profile
Thanks

[teddyberry]

Last year, I got to the ranking phase quite early and I got 91 (SOC panel). Now I am still in evaluation (it's a resubmission). I find it hard to believe that this year the same project got less than 70. Technically, it is possible, but it would be weird. We shouldn't worry too much about the ranking, I think, but speculation is always fun

Hi everyone
How do we have to check if we went to Ranking or if we are under evaluation?. I can not find it in my profile
Thanks

1. You need to log in to your EC account first.
2. Copy the link below
https://ec.europa.eu/research/participa ... /XXXXXXXXX
3.Replace the XXXXXXXXX with your Proposal ID number.
4. See "Phase".

[Helaine7575]

As it has been said before, there is likely no logic in the timing of the ranking. It seems more or less clear that the ranking process is not done by a machine but by a person (or several of them) per panel in batches for one week.

The timing to ranking, as manifested by several users before, is utterly opaque to us (as a matter of fact, even the RANKING status is most likely meaningless). It may be perfectly possible that we are categorized based on the arrival date of our evaluations from the reviewers/keywords within the panel (e.g., inorganic chemistry, theoretical chemistry)/postdoctoral experience/host country or any other indicator that we cannot track. Damn, it may well also be that the clerk in charge of dumping a particular batch of proposals has other duties or is on their day off! It may also be that early "RANKERS" will get the fellowship as well, but my point is that there are SO many unknown things that all we are doing is speculating, which is funny but may distress some other people, so please have these people in mind.

Totally Agree, I also think that early ranking means absolutely nothing, or ranking in general

[SezarArj]

I think the start of rating the ENV panel was yesterday. Is there anyone from the ENV panel whose phase change happened in the previous days?
Also, is there anyone who, for example, changed the phase today?

Answers to these questions are very helpful.

[Helaine7575]

Ok, I participate to the Fanta Marie Curie and I am on ranking, It could have happened any time today. SOC panel. My proposal is on a top EU current priority, top supervisor, top host Institution - I have a great publications single authored , work in policy and academia, Expert in my field, I am sure I did a great proposal and I am saying all this to Say that I am completely aware that despite all of this It can easily fail (which I expect), It Is Indeed a lottery, so hang on there and do not be discouraged by yourself as we cannot control everything! Good luck guys!

The thing is that all of us think that our supervisors are the top ones.. Best record track...etc. Not a comment for you, for all. It is funny to read all of this. Everyone see the world as he/she pleases. For me, the true is that someone doing something extraordinary helpful in the field could review the proposal once or 0. I would like to know all of these 'top' researchers.

My point, as I also wrote, was that It does not matter how good a proposal/researcher/host Is. There Is Always an element of luck and unpredictability.