2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

[KathyHappy]

They removed the "informed date" that was 14th Feb. It is possible the result will be announced sooner; otherwise, they could keep 14th Feb in the profile.

I think they will announce the results after Feb 14, because it is "February 2023 (second half)" now
https://marie-sklodowska-curie-actions. ... ships-2022

It has always been "February 2023 (second half)" in that page! No worries

No, it was "February 2023" at the first time (before the call closed), then turned to "February 2023 (second half)" in October 2022 (I didn't know exactly when, the first time I noticed was on Oct 9, 2022). But perhaps you are right, since there is no such change after the call closure.

[behradei]

Hi guys (gender neutral one),

I strongly suggest to everybody read the following:
In the documents of MCSA, there are two docs where the evaluation procedure is described.
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf
https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... _he_en.pdf

Understanding the procedure will assist you with understanding the magic link mystery.

Based on my humble opinion and experience,
The EVALUATION means that:
a) the proposal is still UNDER REVIEW because either the experts haven't reached a consensus, or the proposal was returned to them to re-evaluate them. The latter occurs when there is a "difficult" case, where more effort is required to come up with a suitable score (either high or low, it doesn't matter). This also explains that some proposals may remain at evaluation until the end and get funded (because they went to the SEP system in the last day(s)).
b) If the consensus is given, (i.e., the review of the proposal is finalized), then the Evaluation means that the grade is UNDER the 70% threshold. So, the proposal is NOT forwarded to the SEP system in order to be ranked.

On the other hand, RANKING means that the Review has finished, there is a score above 70%, and it has been RANKED by the SEP system.
Beyond the above, there is not any other pattern. Since there is a special system (the SEP), it doesn't make sense to waste time and effort forwarding proposals above 70% to the SEP system in a hierarchical order (the SEP system will rank them anyhow). If there is info by getting an early rank (by early I mean days and not the hours' hypothesis), it may only be that the consensus was reached effortlessly (e.g., the pros and/or cons of the proposal were apparent to every expert reviewer). So, an effortless consensus may frequently occur in good proposals, but again, this may happen in moderate or low-quality proposals. So, again the ranking phase (earlier or later) is not an indicator of success or failure.

One solid conclusion is that since many of us have reached the Ranking phase, it means that the announcement will be on time (or earlier).

I think they already had the consensus reports. I checked my submission of last year, and found that EC released the rejection on Mar 21, 2022, yet released the ESR (evaluation summary report) on Feb 17, 2022, which means it would take approximately one month after ESRs are reached, although ESRs will only be visible to us applicants after the rejection/acceptance is sent.

they issued my last year's ESR on 17/02/2022, too!

[Rodolfo1988]

Hi guys (gender neutral one),

I strongly suggest to everybody read the following:
In the documents of MCSA, there are two docs where the evaluation procedure is described.
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf
https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... _he_en.pdf

Understanding the procedure will assist you with understanding the magic link mystery.

Based on my humble opinion and experience,
The EVALUATION means that:
a) the proposal is still UNDER REVIEW because either the experts haven't reached a consensus, or the proposal was returned to them to re-evaluate them. The latter occurs when there is a "difficult" case, where more effort is required to come up with a suitable score (either high or low, it doesn't matter). This also explains that some proposals may remain at evaluation until the end and get funded (because they went to the SEP system in the last day(s)).
b) If the consensus is given, (i.e., the review of the proposal is finalized), then the Evaluation means that the grade is UNDER the 70% threshold. So, the proposal is NOT forwarded to the SEP system in order to be ranked.

On the other hand, RANKING means that the Review has finished, there is a score above 70%, and it has been RANKED by the SEP system.
Beyond the above, there is not any other pattern. Since there is a special system (the SEP), it doesn't make sense to waste time and effort forwarding proposals above 70% to the SEP system in a hierarchical order (the SEP system will rank them anyhow). If there is info by getting an early rank (by early I mean days and not the hours' hypothesis), it may only be that the consensus was reached effortlessly (e.g., the pros and/or cons of the proposal were apparent to every expert reviewer). So, an effortless consensus may frequently occur in good proposals, but again, this may happen in moderate or low-quality proposals. So, again the ranking phase (earlier or later) is not an indicator of success or failure.

One solid conclusion is that since many of us have reached the Ranking phase, it means that the announcement will be on time (or earlier).

I think they already had the consensus reports. I checked my submission of last year, and found that EC released the rejection on Mar 21, 2022, yet released the ESR (evaluation summary report) on Feb 17, 2022, which means it would take approximately one month after ESRs are reached, although ESRs will only be visible to us applicants after the rejection/acceptance is sent.

they issued my last year's ESR on 17/02/2022, too!

This means that everything should be ready. Coinciding with the change to "Ranking" (changed 1/30... result on 2/14). In this then... maybe I change to "ranking" before? I at least couldn't see it, I didn't know about the magic link.

[pav]

They removed the "informed date" that was 14th Feb. It is possible the result will be announced sooner; otherwise, they could keep 14th Feb in the profile.

I still see 14 Feb

[behradei]

Hi guys (gender neutral one),

I strongly suggest to everybody read the following:
In the documents of MCSA, there are two docs where the evaluation procedure is described.
https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf
https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... _he_en.pdf

Understanding the procedure will assist you with understanding the magic link mystery.

Based on my humble opinion and experience,
The EVALUATION means that:
a) the proposal is still UNDER REVIEW because either the experts haven't reached a consensus, or the proposal was returned to them to re-evaluate them. The latter occurs when there is a "difficult" case, where more effort is required to come up with a suitable score (either high or low, it doesn't matter). This also explains that some proposals may remain at evaluation until the end and get funded (because they went to the SEP system in the last day(s)).
b) If the consensus is given, (i.e., the review of the proposal is finalized), then the Evaluation means that the grade is UNDER the 70% threshold. So, the proposal is NOT forwarded to the SEP system in order to be ranked.

On the other hand, RANKING means that the Review has finished, there is a score above 70%, and it has been RANKED by the SEP system.
Beyond the above, there is not any other pattern. Since there is a special system (the SEP), it doesn't make sense to waste time and effort forwarding proposals above 70% to the SEP system in a hierarchical order (the SEP system will rank them anyhow). If there is info by getting an early rank (by early I mean days and not the hours' hypothesis), it may only be that the consensus was reached effortlessly (e.g., the pros and/or cons of the proposal were apparent to every expert reviewer). So, an effortless consensus may frequently occur in good proposals, but again, this may happen in moderate or low-quality proposals. So, again the ranking phase (earlier or later) is not an indicator of success or failure.

One solid conclusion is that since many of us have reached the Ranking phase, it means that the announcement will be on time (or earlier).

I think they already had the consensus reports. I checked my submission of last year, and found that EC released the rejection on Mar 21, 2022, yet released the ESR (evaluation summary report) on Feb 17, 2022, which means it would take approximately one month after ESRs are reached, although ESRs will only be visible to us applicants after the rejection/acceptance is sent.

they issued my last year's ESR on 17/02/2022, too!

to be more specific this is the timetable of last year's documents
I just changed the personal information with 777777

Process documents

Evaluation Result Letter (1)
Document Evaluation Result Letter-77777777777 20 Mar 2022

Evaluation Summary (1)
Document 7777777777777 16 Feb 2022

Proposal (1)
Document PROPOSAL_17777777E-HORIZON-MSCA-2021-PF-01 11 Oct 2021

Seal of Excellence (1)
Document Seal of Excellence-777777 04 May 2022

[syntactician]

They removed the "informed date" that was 14th Feb. It is possible the result will be announced sooner; otherwise, they could keep 14th Feb in the profile.

I still see 14 Feb

Me too: "14 Feb 2023 (145/153 days)"

[Fish]

They removed the "informed date" that was 14th Feb. It is possible the result will be announced sooner; otherwise, they could keep 14th Feb in the profile.

I still see 14 Feb

They added again. It disappeared for two hours!

[KathyHappy]

Anchored at the timeline of last year (although there might be difference), I predict the results will be announced by Feb 21/22, because

-- last year -- this year
Call closure: Sep 14, 2022 (d#0) -- Oct 12, 2022 (d#0)
1st reported evaluation: Mar 01, 2022 (d#140) -- Jan 06, 2023 (d#114)
1st reported ranking : Mar 01, 2022 (d#140) -- Jan 31, 2023 (d#139)
(speculative) announcement: Mar 22, 2022 (d#161) -- Feb 14, 2023 (d#153) or Feb 22, 2023 (d#161)

PS. "d#161" means 161 days have passed since the corresponding call closure.

[SezarArj]

Anchored at the timeline of last year (although there might be difference), I predict the results will be announced by Feb 21/22, because

-- last year -- this year
Call closure: Sep 14, 2022 (d#0) -- Oct 12, 2022 (d#0)
1st reported evaluation: Mar 01, 2022 (d#140) -- Jan 06, 2023 (d#114)
1st reported ranking : Mar 01, 2022 (d#140) -- Jan 31, 2023 (d#139)
(speculative) announcement: Mar 22, 2022 (d#161) -- Feb 14, 2023 (d#153) or Feb 22, 2023 (d#161)

PS. "d#161" means 161 days have passed since the corresponding call closure.

Don't bother yourself. Do not relate the events of last year to this year. Last year was an exception.
The results have been determined and if someone has access to it like Dreamer or DreamerGirl, they can let us know.
If there is no such person, the results will be emailed on the morning of February 14. Winners will be emailed a few hours earlier.

[pav]

They removed the "informed date" that was 14th Feb. It is possible the result will be announced sooner; otherwise, they could keep 14th Feb in the profile.

I still see 14 Feb

They added again. It disappeared for two hours!

Oh, of course because there was a planned maintenance on the portal website.