2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

emmi
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by emmi » Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:47 pm

afabris wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:48 pm
Based on my understanding, the UK does not contribute to the Horizon Europe budget (though it has negotiated access starting from this year). The budget allocated by the Commission is fixed, and this determines the number of grants awarded. At the time of signing, UK hosts will be declared ineligible, and the budget will be reallocated to other projects. There will be no cuts; in fact, it's possible that the Commission may allocate additional funds (as has happened in the past).
I didn't know that the Commission allocated additional funds. How often do they do this, is there any report or resource I can check?

imtaba
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by imtaba » Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:07 am

emmi wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:29 pm
ella_ wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:22 am
Panda wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:00 am
To me what it feels that when the UK ML candidate will be alloted UKRI that means UK is not going to share it's monetary support towards 2023 MSCA right, then there will be budget cut as well, so it may not be like lot of people are from the RL going to be hoisted.
This would be logical, but don't you think the budget already excludes the UK contribution? It makes sense to me that if the UK actually associated there would be more money available. This year the budget will be a lot higher and that will probably result in less extremely high (initial) cut-off scores.
You are right. The last year (2023) call budget was 260M €, but the current call (2024) it has 417M € because of UK association and their contribution. Therefore, almost double the fund and as you said that cut-offs should be lower.
Why there is such a huge difference?

emmi
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by emmi » Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm

imtaba wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:07 am
emmi wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:29 pm
ella_ wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:22 am


This would be logical, but don't you think the budget already excludes the UK contribution? It makes sense to me that if the UK actually associated there would be more money available. This year the budget will be a lot higher and that will probably result in less extremely high (initial) cut-off scores.
You are right. The last year (2023) call budget was 260M €, but the current call (2024) it has 417M € because of UK association and their contribution. Therefore, almost double the fund and as you said that cut-offs should be lower.
Why there is such a huge difference?
As of beginning of this year UK was agreed to be an associated member of Horizon Europe. Therefore. The main reason the 2024 budget increased significantly.
2024 applicants will be way luckier.

Mimi
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by Mimi » Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:30 pm

emmi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm
imtaba wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:07 am
emmi wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:29 pm


You are right. The last year (2023) call budget was 260M €, but the current call (2024) it has 417M € because of UK association and their contribution. Therefore, almost double the fund and as you said that cut-offs should be lower.
Why there is such a huge difference?
As of beginning of this year UK was agreed to be an associated member of Horizon Europe. Therefore. The main reason the 2024 budget increased significantly.
2024 applicants will be way luckier.
Agree, 2022 is a lucky year because of less than 1000 applicants with the same amount of budget as this year; 2024 is also a lucky year because of the more funding from UK. Only 2023... Highest cutoff score, lower budget, more applicants :cry:

emmi
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by emmi » Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:14 pm

Mimi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:30 pm
emmi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm
imtaba wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:07 am

Why there is such a huge difference?
As of beginning of this year UK was agreed to be an associated member of Horizon Europe. Therefore. The main reason the 2024 budget increased significantly.
2024 applicants will be way luckier.
Agree, 2022 is a lucky year because of less than 1000 applicants with the same amount of budget as this year; 2024 is also a lucky year because of the more funding from UK. Only 2023... Highest cutoff score, lower budget, more applicants :cry:
This was my first application and I also chose the rougher/worse year to apply. Anyways, we will have to wait another 3 months with finger cross even if waiting this long is too annoying.

Someone mentioned in the past the commission added some extra funds. I hope they can at least do it again for the tough 2023 applications.

imtaba
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by imtaba » Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:16 pm

Mimi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:30 pm
emmi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm
imtaba wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:07 am

Why there is such a huge difference?
As of beginning of this year UK was agreed to be an associated member of Horizon Europe. Therefore. The main reason the 2024 budget increased significantly.
2024 applicants will be way luckier.
Agree, 2022 is a lucky year because of less than 1000 applicants with the same amount of budget as this year; 2024 is also a lucky year because of the more funding from UK. Only 2023... Highest cutoff score, lower budget, more applicants :cry:
So, has this year's budget already exclude the UK hosted projects? Or will there be 40-50 million remained after excluding UK hosts?

ella_
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by ella_ » Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:07 pm

imtaba wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:16 pm
Mimi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:30 pm
emmi wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm


As of beginning of this year UK was agreed to be an associated member of Horizon Europe. Therefore. The main reason the 2024 budget increased significantly.
2024 applicants will be way luckier.
Agree, 2022 is a lucky year because of less than 1000 applicants with the same amount of budget as this year; 2024 is also a lucky year because of the more funding from UK. Only 2023... Highest cutoff score, lower budget, more applicants :cry:
So, has this year's budget already exclude the UK hosted projects? Or will there be 40-50 million remained after excluding UK hosts?
the latter, that much we know

watermelon
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by watermelon » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:10 pm

Hi, all. Just wanted to let everyone know that I have been invited to sign the grant agreement. (EF-ENV, 93%). All the best to everyone who is awaiting results.

znqm
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by znqm » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:25 pm

Me too. I was invited to sign the grant agreement (EF-ENV 94).

tcol
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Re: 2023 Reserve list (HE-MSCA-PF-2023)

Post by tcol » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:37 pm

I just got the email as well! Called to sign the grant agreement! I was 13th on the EF-LIF list. Best of luck!!

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