2020 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2020)

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Dear friend from 8PM

[LionKing]

8 pm ??? Are results being uploaded today itself ???

[doggoss]

Dear friend from 8PM

You are doing the lords work!

[Diatosystem]

My two cents about the evaluation process.

I think I do agree that it's a lottery, but in my opinion as any other funding schemes like this one. And I also agree that those big changes in the final scores should not happen.
On the other hand, this is the flagship EU funding program, with a long story of excellence, and a LOT of people involved in this. People working on the optimization of all the aspects of this scheme. I believe they try to minimize this kind of "unfair" situation by providing assistance to the reviewers and also double-checking their evaluations (and that's why I think process takes so long).

I am not trying to justify EU and MSCA agency, but I am just considering how the entire process is so complicate and tedious for them too. You can always have a Referee who believes your proposal is bullshit or excellent without even reading it. That's for sure the most aleatory aspect of the process. I think we must deal with this, and I think also MSCA agency know it. Because this program is made to encourage people to do excellent science, not let them run away. So when something like this happens I think it's more a fail for them than for us.

Nevertheless, This experience must not change our passion for science and research, that I guess all of us have.

Peace guys!

[fermor]

Dear friend from 8PM

Do you have the results?

[Theonlyone]

Hey Naanu from Karnataka

Hey I am from Tamilnadu

And one from Kerala too. Full South Zone is here

Vanakam

[Amancay]

Oh, gosh... Just thought I'd check what new here after a while, and I find all this...
I'm so sorry for you Dreamer, Pete, whomever else got a negative result. I was rooting for you.
No matter how much we prepare ourselves and try  not to build expectation, it is disappointing and can be discouraging, after all the hard work put into it.
Please don't let it discourage you from pursuing your research, and look for other ways/places to do it (although it's not easy at all, we all know).

As already said here by several people, it says nothing about you, and a lot about the weaknesses and inconsistencies of the evaluation process.
These cases of a major drop in resubmission appear to be too common, and reveal how subjective the reviewers are.

My prospected supervisor told me before submission that she honestly doesn't know anymore what works because:
1. One of her candidates in previous calls had exactly the same thing - a drop from 88 to 68 with the same proposal, and the only changes were to adress the weaknesses pointed in the first time.
2. She was asked once, as a reviewer, to evaluate a msca proposal on something from our field but completely not in her area of expertise. She told them she is not the right person for it, but makes one wonder how many people do it anyway...

As she thinks my proposal is excellent, she actually said that if this one isn't funded, she will not apply again to msca with other people. So even this highly experienced scholar and supervisor is disillusioned regarding this system and process.

Sending good vibes and virtual covid-free hugs to you all.
And fingers crossed for those of us still waiting and hoping...

(and apologies for this very long manifesto . Didn't mean too...)

Actually the lottery is in getting good reviewers. In my first attempt reviewer commented that this candidate was not in the early career stage. I was doing a fellowship at that time and they were pointing that probably. Second time I got very good comment from reviewers saying the candidate is apt for doing this work. Ironically I was in the second year of same fellowship during second attempt. So reviewers say whatever they feel. This time I have finished my previous fellowship and let's see what they are gonna say

Thanks!
Exactly! It's all about who the reviewers are. This has been my main worry in the past 5 months, because I really feel confident about the quality of my proposal... I guess we'll know soon enough...

Btw, "not in the early career stage", should not have been an issue, since until now the application was not limited to a few years after doctorate, or only inexperienced scholars... One can be an experienced researcher aspiring to do something new that requires more training, and the track record demonstrates the ability to do that. So to point that as a negative thing is plain stupid, I think....

Anyway, wishing you luck this time around! (It's my first and probably last try at msca).

[Jolly]

Just know that I failed I was in ranking, I failed with 75! I have two successful proposal with 98.6 and100 marks and read more than 10 other proposals. Sometimes I read this forum and I cannot believe that this is a lottery. I spent more than 120 days and read every fucking page and info and see lots of video in youtube not for this call! An evaluator told me that you will get 95 or more if the reviewers like it! I was 100 percent sure that I will get it. My idea is very hot! and I used 3 figures , 11 tables، covered all the issues very professionally( believe me). I cannot believe that I don't even get the seal of excellence. Hope all the best for all of you. This is lottery do your best but don't count on this.

[tahir]

No ..He will play PubG with all group members
Just joking

Dear friend from 8PM

Do you have the results?

[MSCA_ENG20]

Here is the link

The bottom option is the expert panel

https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... Code=H2020

Thanks for sharing.