2020 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2020)

[MSCA_ENG20]

On the EC website it now also says "Letters on the results of the evaluation are being sent to applicants. Due to the call size, this process can take up to one week."
https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... ePageState

Seriously? A 20% increase of applicants and what used to take up to two days previous years is now taking up to a week?

[Torello]

Hi All,

I just checked with the "no style" function and saw on top left some options like
Help
Getting Started
Grant Preparation
GA Termination
Project Monitoring
Amendments

etc... Does it mean anything?
I haven't been notified so I assume I didn't get it... but I'm a bit confused. Otherwise it only says Ranking and going to be informed tomorrow.

[2_old_4_MSCA]

What does this mean?

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[HopefullyMCIF]

What does this mean?
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nothing

[Moskito]

I received my evaluation report and I am on the reserve list. Someone else also shared theirs with me and they are on the reserve list with these scores:

Excellence 4.2
Impact 4.7
Implementation 4.8

However, the Impact and Implementation sections both say:

Weaknesses:
None

Is removing points but saying that a section has no weaknesses accepted by the European Commission? Would this be grounds for re-evaluation in your opinion or no?

In my opinion, yes. I'd wouldn't agree to take someone's points off without justification, if I was the chair.

The same thing happened to me last year. The NCP told me that is quite common. Even if the reviwers don't spot any particular weakness, they might give you a lower evalutation than 5/5. I agree with you that it seems unfair and it does not help you to prepare a better proposal if you want to apply next year.

[marinemicrobe]

So it seems like I'm not even in the 50% of applicants in my field.

So this unfortunately makes me feel like shit and a terrible motivation to keep on in academia.

I have the same feeling. I had an idea and my supervisor got a project based on my idea. After interview, I was accepted as a postdoc researcher for that project. but a few days ago he cancelled everything. He even choice someone else for that postdoc position.

Wow that seems like something that should be illegal. I'm sorry this is happening. One more example of how f*** up the system is (and that's not going to stop any time soon).

I can't believe there are 10,000 devastated researchers today, some of which surely are great, most of which are probably realistically "good enough" (whatever that means) at what they do. And most of them feel like complete crap. Not to mention, some of us are unemployed and not sure how to stay in the system and have the slightest chance at ever getting a job if we're supposed to just write one failing proposal after another while surviving on social aid or personal savings. I'm literally considering asking previous employers if they have data lying around somewhere so I can keep publishing until I (maybe?) manage to get my career going again.

I'm in the RI panel, there are 50% of eligible proposals (~600) that have a score higher than 85 (SOE) based on the table they just published. Minus the ones who got funded, that's about 200 researchers whose project is now deemed "excellent" but "cannot" be funded.

How did we get here? How do we keep going?


Big hugs to all of you who feel down today. I love the positivity of some of the messages here, let's sulk a bit and then move on. This program does not define us (right? )

[Little_Venice]

Is this to say that the reviewers can lower your score because they "feel like it"? That's not OK and it's not how academia works. I personally would appeal (having little expectation as your score may actually go down on appeal).

I received my evaluation report and I am on the reserve list. Someone else also shared theirs with me and they are on the reserve list with these scores:



However, the Impact and Implementation sections both say:

Is removing points but saying that a section has no weaknesses accepted by the European Commission? Would this be grounds for re-evaluation in your opinion or no?

In my opinion, yes. I'd wouldn't agree to take someone's points off without justification, if I was the chair.

The same thing happened to me last year. The NCP told me that is quite common. Even if the reviwers don't spot any particular weakness, they might give you a lower evalutation than 5/5. I agree with you that it seems unfair and it does not help you to prepare a better proposal if you want to apply next year.

[Shathlia]

So it seems like I'm not even in the 50% of applicants in my field.

So this unfortunately makes me feel like shit and a terrible motivation to keep on in academia.

I have the same feeling. I had an idea and my supervisor got a project based on my idea. After interview, I was accepted as a postdoc researcher for that project. but a few days ago he cancelled everything. He even choice someone else for that postdoc position.

Wow that seems like something that should be illegal. I'm sorry this is happening. One more example of how f*** up the system is (and that's not going to stop any time soon).

I can't believe there are 10,000 devastated researchers today, some of which surely are great, most of which are probably realistically "good enough" (whatever that means) at what they do. And most of them feel like complete crap. Not to mention, some of us are unemployed and not sure how to stay in the system and have the slightest chance at ever getting a job if we're supposed to just write one failing proposal after another while surviving on social aid or personal savings. I'm literally considering asking previous employers if they have data lying around somewhere so I can keep publishing until I (maybe?) manage to get my career going again.

I'm in the RI panel, there are 50% of eligible proposals (~600) that have a score higher than 85 (SOE) based on the table they just published. Minus the ones who got funded, that's about 200 researchers whose project is now deemed "excellent" but "cannot" be funded.

How did we get here? How do we keep going?


Big hugs to all of you who feel down today. I love the positivity of some of the messages here, let's sulk a bit and then move on. This program does not define us (right? )

They published a table? Where is this table?

[gipi]

When did you receive the notification?

I can confirm it is not by percentage. Someone on my panel got a 93.4 and got their notification before I did, and I got 96.

[Fu Manchu]

On the EC website it now also says "Letters on the results of the evaluation are being sent to applicants. Due to the call size, this process can take up to one week."
https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tende ... ePageState

I am appreciative of the work of bureaucrats, but this insane!!

Imagine what the MSCA would do with a project with the same "quality" of their work today.