2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

karbonnom
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by karbonnom » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:09 pm

Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm
Maaaastricht wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:42 pm


There’s always things. My proposal was reviewed by three supervisors, the grants office at my host, and two former evaluators (because my host is a well-oiled machine) and still I feel certain that many parts of the project are subjective and will be rejected. : (
That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.
It also speaks as to what kind of PI you would work with...

MSCA_SOC_2019
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:12 pm

UKR wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:07 pm
Now three PDF files in GAP. B1, B2 and combined one.
Yesterday it was only the combined one.
What do you mean?
I cannot even access my proposal since 30 min

Anxiety
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Anxiety » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:16 pm

Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm
Maaaastricht wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:42 pm


There’s always things. My proposal was reviewed by three supervisors, the grants office at my host, and two former evaluators (because my host is a well-oiled machine) and still I feel certain that many parts of the project are subjective and will be rejected. : (
That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.

I would like to add: I'm not saying this because I think your wife have less chances to get funded. I'm saying this because I cannot imagine myself finishing and sending the proposal without having feedback. It's brave.

All my best wishes for you ♥️

UKR
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by UKR » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:17 pm

I can access. It was down for sometime but now it is normal.
In the document library you can find the documents. It was only one PDF but now three PDFs.
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:12 pm
UKR wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:07 pm
Now three PDF files in GAP. B1, B2 and combined one.
Yesterday it was only the combined one.
What do you mean?
I cannot even access my proposal since 30 min

MSCA_SOC_2019
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:17 pm

Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm
Maaaastricht wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:42 pm


There’s always things. My proposal was reviewed by three supervisors, the grants office at my host, and two former evaluators (because my host is a well-oiled machine) and still I feel certain that many parts of the project are subjective and will be rejected. : (
That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.
About the fact that MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort, a lot of MSCA fellow are a bit alone working on their project if the proposal do not fit perfectly with the interests of the research group.
When I wrote the successful one, I got help from my host group leader only and reviews from 2 people from the NCP. But the greatest help came from a friend who got one previously.
I think it is almost impossible to be funded without getting help from previous successful applicants... I is SO competitive !

Thant time my host just read it and the NCP contact person just look quickly at the proposal (mainly for the administrative part).
But I had a good example of my previous application

MSCA_SOC_2019
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:21 pm

UKR wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:17 pm
I can access. It was down for sometime but now it is normal.
In the document library you can find the documents. It was only one PDF but now three PDFs.
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:12 pm
UKR wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:07 pm
Now three PDF files in GAP. B1, B2 and combined one.
Yesterday it was only the combined one.
What do you mean?
I cannot even access my proposal since 30 min
I see

Still impossible to access I am stuck on this page after I click on the follow-up button
The same happened yesterday
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UKR
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by UKR » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:26 pm

Maybe for winners take longer time to update their files.
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:21 pm
UKR wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:17 pm
I can access. It was down for sometime but now it is normal.
In the document library you can find the documents. It was only one PDF but now three PDFs.
MSCA_SOC_2019 wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:12 pm


What do you mean?
I cannot even access my proposal since 30 min
I see

Still impossible to access I am stuck on this page after I click on the follow-up button
The same happened yesterday

michelef
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by michelef » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:27 pm

Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm
Maaaastricht wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:42 pm


There’s always things. My proposal was reviewed by three supervisors, the grants office at my host, and two former evaluators (because my host is a well-oiled machine) and still I feel certain that many parts of the project are subjective and will be rejected. : (
That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.
The funny thing (actually, it's sad), is that the supervisor said "I will also check part B2 and send the revision in a few days"... She's still waiting to get that revision. Not a word in five months from the potential future supervisor.

The same PI was also my sponsor to apply to the ERC-stg with the same host institution, and of course they offered to review my proposal... But I've never received anything, just a "sorry, I was too busy" well after the deadline. I am not sure if I'd like to apply again with that host, they just don't care.

MSCA_SOC_2019
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCA_SOC_2019 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:31 pm

michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:27 pm
Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm


That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.
The funny thing (actually, it's sad), is that the supervisor said "I will also check part B2 and send the revision in a few days"... She's still waiting to get that revision. Not a word in five months from the potential future supervisor.

The same PI was also my sponsor to apply to the ERC-stg with the same host institution, and of course they offered to review my proposal... But I've never received anything, just a "sorry, I was too busy" well after the deadline. I am not sure if I'd like to apply again with that host, they just don't care.
Really sad. How can she make a strong proposal if the host do not take time to help with the data from his own institution.
Mine send me a lot (two many) details to help me write it. It was very useful.

Pablovm
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Pablovm » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:32 pm

michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:27 pm
Anxiety wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm
michelef wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:12 pm


That's how these things should be done, in my experience getting support from the institution and other people is what makes a difference. My girlfriend applied this year and I was the only one reviewing her proposal. Her prospective supervisor barely read the proposal like a week before the deadline. The institution didn't bother doing anything, and the NCP replied that they don't review proposals. It's really difficult to get a grant without getting any external opinion on the proposal.
What a shame... I am so sorry to read this. This is a very competitive and demanding process. I don't understand how some supervisors can leave the applicant alone. MSCA application process is supposed to be a team effort.
The funny thing (actually, it's sad), is that the supervisor said "I will also check part B2 and send the revision in a few days"... She's still waiting to get that revision. Not a word in five months from the potential future supervisor.

The same PI was also my sponsor to apply to the ERC-stg with the same host institution, and of course they offered to review my proposal... But I've never received anything, just a "sorry, I was too busy" well after the deadline. I am not sure if I'd like to apply again with that host, they just don't care.
That's a huge red flat for me... Support is key.

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