2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

pkourtes
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by pkourtes » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:16 pm

The upload include a huge number of proposals, and it may happen until the very end before the announcements.
Ranking means that the proposal's score was above the threshold 70, and it was uploaded to the system, nothing more, nothing less than that.
The evaluation may mean that either the proposal has not passed the threshold or that it has not been uploaded yet.

UKR
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by UKR » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:58 pm

Submission?
pkourtes wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:16 pm
The upload include a huge number of proposals, and it may happen until the very end before the announcements.
Ranking means that the proposal's score was above the threshold 70, and it was uploaded to the system, nothing more, nothing less than that.
The evaluation may mean that either the proposal has not passed the threshold or that it has not been uploaded yet.

Anxiety
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Anxiety » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:10 am

There is still not enough evidence of anything and the number of status reports is not representative. I think that the debate between ranking or evaluation is absurd and people use it to convince themselves that their proposals can be successful :| .

dw2022
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by dw2022 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:14 am

EF-LIF-2021 wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:09 pm
MSCA IF 2020 - Change to Ranking - Funded/Reserve List/Not Funded

NAME TIME FUNDING SCORE PANEL

nagyenz 4:18 pm yes 95 LIF
no42 4:20 yes
Zebra 4:20 yes 99 SOC (evaluation 13:50, ranking 16:20)
LIF20 4:21 ?
Little Venice 4:31 yes
MC CHEM 2020 4:32 yes 96.4 CHEM
Fish20 4:37 yes
Phys2020 4:39 yes 97.8 SE - PHY
mynameis... 4:41 yes 88.2 SE
msca19 4:41 yes SE
DODO 4:59 yes GF - ENV
EnvS 5:03 yes ENV
Aratron 5:13 yes LIF
ElonMusk 5:18 reserve list 94.4 LIF

Giadina_1998 5:20 no SOC
Surrreal 5:24 no 88 CAR
Esbesp 5:25 no CAR
msca-gf-2021 5:26 no 73.6 GF-LIF


In my opinion, there is some trend. But it was last year, this year can be different.
Nice summary!!
This year many (or several) remained as “submission” until the second day (March 2nd), among which turned quickly to evaluation and to ranking. Seems to be a new thing as compared to last years.

CatTaotao
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by CatTaotao » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:20 am

Anxiety wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:10 am
There is still not enough evidence of anything and the number of status reports is not representative. I think that the debate between ranking or evaluation is absurd and people use it to convince themselves that their proposals can be successful :| .
True, too less data to model the black box system 8-)

UKR
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by UKR » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:30 am

Based on number reported here,
the changes to ranking on first march happened only up to 4 pm and after that the change in phase was not reported.
Then, started next morning around nine.
It is possible that all winners changed on first march and the rest on second march.

pkourtes
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by pkourtes » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:31 am

I refer to the phase in Magic Link. Submission is before evaluation.
UKR wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:58 pm
Submission?
pkourtes wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:16 pm
The upload include a huge number of proposals, and it may happen until the very end before the announcements.
Ranking means that the proposal's score was above the threshold 70, and it was uploaded to the system, nothing more, nothing less than that.
The evaluation may mean that either the proposal has not passed the threshold or that it has not been uploaded yet.

UKR
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by UKR » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:32 am

Mine had submission phase by magic link and got 84.4
pkourtes wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:31 am
I refer to the phase in Magic Link. Submission is before evaluation.
UKR wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:58 pm
Submission?
pkourtes wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:16 pm
The upload include a huge number of proposals, and it may happen until the very end before the announcements.
Ranking means that the proposal's score was above the threshold 70, and it was uploaded to the system, nothing more, nothing less than that.
The evaluation may mean that either the proposal has not passed the threshold or that it has not been uploaded yet.

pkourtes
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by pkourtes » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:52 am

Your case is more proof that the whole magic link speculation is totally unreliable.
Normally, submission phase remains until it goes to the vice-chairs. Though, the status of yours may not been updated at all. The magic link is like we try to draw conclusions out of thin air. We speculate that they upload the high scores first, or base on the Acronym or whatever. And who is doing all this well organized and structured updates and management? The EC hahahaha it is just laughable, the guys of EC just randomly upload whatever they have, they may forget to update something while it is uploaded. The only certain thing is that EC is chaotic bureaucratic organization with poor management (The existence of a magic link that any applicant accesses info that she/he shouldn't, is further evidence that they are "un grand bordel". So, no magic link speculations :P
UKR wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:32 am
Mine had submission phase by magic link and got 84.4
pkourtes wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:31 am
I refer to the phase in Magic Link. Submission is before evaluation.
UKR wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:58 pm
Submission?

Fu Manchu
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Fu Manchu » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:25 am

UKR wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:30 am
Based on number reported here,
the changes to ranking on first march happened only up to 4 pm and after that the change in phase was not reported.
Then, started next morning around nine.
It is possible that all winners changed on first march and the rest on second march.
I really hope that you are right :D

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