2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

PHSeal
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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by PHSeal » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:10 pm

Guys, would you know if the "ranking" is relevant to this section?

https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

4. Panel review

During the panel reviews, the Chairs and Vice-Chairs are invited to perform another quality check of the ESRs, and may adjust the comments and exceptionally the scores if duly justified and if fully endorsed by the panel.

After Panel finalises its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order of the total score in their respective panel ranking list. Any ex aequo cases are also discussed and resolved by the panel before the final approval of the ranking lists by the Panel.

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by michelef » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:19 pm

PHSeal wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:10 pm
Guys, would you know if the "ranking" is relevant to this section?

https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

4. Panel review

During the panel reviews, the Chairs and Vice-Chairs are invited to perform another quality check of the ESRs, and may adjust the comments and exceptionally the scores if duly justified and if fully endorsed by the panel.

After Panel finalises its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order of the total score in their respective panel ranking list. Any ex aequo cases are also discussed and resolved by the panel before the final approval of the ranking lists by the Panel.
It's difficult to know for sure if the phase shown by the magic link reflects the ranking procedure mentioned... But considering that the change of phase happens over multiple days and someone never even gets to the ranking phase (while still getting funded), I don't think the automatic ranking mentioned in that paragraph is reflected by the ranking phase

But who knows!

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by Helaine7575 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:52 pm

So, this means that those who now are on ranking are those with the lowest score (given that It mentions discending ranking)?

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by michelef » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:59 pm

Helaine7575 wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:52 pm
So, this means that those who now are on ranking are those with the lowest score (given that It mentions discending ranking)?
If it's in descending order, wouldn't it be from the highest to the lowest?

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by alex_CS » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:01 pm

Helaine7575 wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:52 pm
So, this means that those who now are on ranking are those with the lowest score (given that It mentions discending ranking)?
I don't guess.
As I got it, all proposals scored over 70 are ranked in a discending ranking (from 100 to 70)

Helaine7575
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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by Helaine7575 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:11 pm

Oh yes, true..anyway, as many mentioned ranking does not guarantee a successful proposals and evaluation does not mean an unsuccessful One. I actually stopped to check the magic link as It Just creates anxiety which Is pointless until we do not receive the results

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by kansal » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:54 am

The next thing is the email EC will send.
Last year, I remembered the successful one will have email earlier in a matter of two days.
The topic of email also mention different thing like......notice of result and grant agreement preparation ....

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by kansal » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:59 am

Also, from last year, the ESR, or report of evaluation has already issued 18 Feb 2022, but we only received the results 23 March last year.
So that means, by now, it is likely that EC already have marked every proposal already, just a matter of ranking it.

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by SezarArj » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:34 am

PHSeal wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:10 pm
Guys, would you know if the "ranking" is relevant to this section?

https://rea.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2 ... Europe.pdf

4. Panel review

During the panel reviews, the Chairs and Vice-Chairs are invited to perform another quality check of the ESRs, and may adjust the comments and exceptionally the scores if duly justified and if fully endorsed by the panel.

After Panel finalises its work, proposals are automatically ranked by the SEP system in descending order of the total score in their respective panel ranking list. Any ex aequo cases are also discussed and resolved by the panel before the final approval of the ranking lists by the Panel.
Here is the panel. It seems that each panel is checked separately.
My panel is ENV and I'm still in evaluation mode.
Has anyone changed from the ENV panel to the ranking?

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Re: 2022 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2022)

Post by whiteknight » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:29 am

totheroadzion wrote:
Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:03 pm
I made this file. I think that if we participate in completing this file, it will be a great help for the rest of us and for us in the future.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
thanks mate for that!
statistically, the robustness of the evaluation/ranking theory increases with the number of records included in the document. I tried to share the link to this thread in a Facebook group (Marie Curie Individual Fellowship 2023), but the administrators did not approve the publication of my post. could be useful if other MSCA applicants join this group and also fill out the table. Please share the link!! :geek:

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